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alexist ([personal profile] alexist) wrote2005-11-17 10:28 pm
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today's G2

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1644103,00.html

Now, while I know mothers who have had a lot of success with 'attachment parenting' techniques, I think this guy is a bit much--carrying your baby around for 8 months?! Things like this will just make women feel even guiltier and more inadequate. It's wonderful to give all these idealistic recommendations, but IMO, the best advice is the advice that can actually be followed. If people feel that goals are unattainable and unrealistic, they're less likely to even try, whereas if guidelines are geared to the 'real world', you'll have a better compliance rate and possibly better outcomes as a result.

Of course we all want 'the best' for children, but there's a real need for balance.

[identity profile] mommyathome.livejournal.com 2005-11-18 02:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I read more and found what you were talking about "He thinks women should carry their babies everywhere for the first eight months; that they should take them to work with them if necessary; that workplaces should change dramatically to accommodate babies, and if they can't, that women should be properly rewarded for staying at home. Bergman says that babies can only cope with one change in their primary carer in the first year, and that nurseries are not a suitable habitat for babies"

Actually, I agree with him, depending on the size of the baby. I stayed home with my son for the first 11 months and wore him most of the time. If the mother can't stay home then she should have a nanny for the baby (under a year) and make sure that the nanny is wearing or holding the baby for at least 4 hours a day. Now, this depends on the kid. Some kids don't want to be held that much, they like to be out and about. I know a kid that was walking at 7 months. She was a fireball who just didn't want to be held, but overall, I totally agree with what he says. Workplaces should be more accomodating to new moms and our children will benefit from this.

[identity profile] arosoff.livejournal.com 2005-11-19 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
But how practical are his views for most women, who have to go back to work after 6 months max (and UK maternity pay is only £100/week after the first 6 weeks). His view doesn't take into account that some women may have to work, or that it may actually be better for mother and baby for the mother to work (some women aren't meant to stay at home). It's just going to add to the amount of guilt mothers feel, and add to the "you're a BAD MOTHER because you don't do everything just right!" feeling.

I'd like to stay home for a while when I have kids, and I do believe that you need to make sacrifices, but I think mothers are under so much pressure these days and I believe in dealing with the real world. A revolution at work would be lovely, but what do we do in the meantime? "Experts" should spend their time helping women to do the best job they can, and less time presenting unfulfillable ideals.

[identity profile] mommyathome.livejournal.com 2005-11-19 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
But he's not saying that mothers need to stay home. He's saying that workplaces need to make more concessions for working mothers. You can wear your baby when they are small while you are working on a computer (I know this, I've done it). The first 6 months generally you can do whatever you want with an infant (as in travel, work, clean) they are still small enough to hold a bunch without killing your back (especially if you are sitting). I don't know about 8 months, some kids that are big that could be pushing it, but 6 months definitely.

Also, he's saying it so countries will change their rules towards moms. I know some countries in Europe give moms a year and a half of paid leave so that they could stay home with their kids. Of course these countries have negative population growth but they also think that allowing this will mean less money to fix the behavioral problems which will happen later on from neglect.

I don't think his goal is to make women feel guilty. I'm certain that if given enough time and space he would give suggestions in the article of what women could do if they aren't in the ideal situation, but that wasn't the goal of the journalist, was it? I mean, Dr. Sears is all into baby-wearing, but he also makes suggestions in his book (which is like, 1000 pages long) about what to do if you aren't in the situation where you can do that. Loads of experts give advice, and from it you have to take bits and pieces to create your own opinions.

[identity profile] mommyathome.livejournal.com 2005-11-19 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
OH one more thing - and you probably won't like this opinion, but if someone is the type who isn't "meant" to stay at home with their kids, maybe they shouldn't be having kids.

In my opinion there's no point in having children if you aren't willing and able to make the sacrifices in your life that children deserve. They don't ask to be born, so parents don't have the right to be selfish and pay someone else to raise their kids. I mean, really, what's the point in having kids if you're not there to raise them?